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An interlude from “serious business”, a bit of light-hearted thought…

This started with a random tweet of mine:

I see tons of “twitter for business” tips and links. I want to see “twitter for dating” apps

I’m hardly the first to float the idea of using Twitter for dating; I’ve seen a number of thoughts from Howard Lindzon on the subject, Aaron Chua mentioned an idea using Twitter plus a “virtual gift” component as foundation for a dating service, and Olivia Hayes mentioned Twitter as part of the broader opportunity to use social media to find dates, to which I left the following comment:

But think if Twitter could match up substance better; everyone that uses the web (including Twitter) creates a lot of information about themselves that could be very powerful to use in matching up people.

We don’t need to replace the serendipity of life, just add to it…

There’s even an old, abandoned @twirting account (Twitter + flirting), indicating an old idea.

After my first tweet about my desire to see a “Twitter for dating” service I traded ideas with Scott Lundgren (@capitalfellow on Twitter), and since neither of us is really going to do anything with the ideas, we decided we would open up the conversation to a broader audience. If you feel like doing anything with it, go for it; all I ask is that I get a free account [1]…

Basically, it’s just a big database that collects information on people that want to use @TwitterDating and then matches up people based on their supplied personal information and a magical contextual analysis of people’s last 1-2 pages of tweets to create potential matches.

After that, @Twitterdating passes on the information on potential matches using the direct message backchannel and allows people to follow up on their own, perhaps direct messaging through @Twitterdating to eliminate the need for the public follow to create the backchannel conversation path.

Anyway: I’ve tried to do is condense the key points from our email conversations to focus on the key points; and to be clear, most of the real thinking is from Scott

Key Points

  • “The real “juice” of the application has to be the contextual analysis of one’s tweets for the matching”
  • What fundamental pieces of information does one need to make a date/no date decision? Which ones are missing from Twitter? How can those be added? Hashtags? Custom application that uses Twitter for message passing & discovery?
  • How can one parse intention from content?

Interaction Model

  • Express interest: I follow @twitterdating
  • Supply additional information: I d @twitterdating the necessary additional information, including my sex, my desired sex, geo, age, etc.
  • Collect additional information: integrate Facebook Connect et. al. to access and collect relevant personal information?
  • Contextual analysis: @Twitterdating indexes Twitter data page of users that have expressed interest (by following @twitterdating) and the additional information supplied to create a user profile. Past tweets are then indexed with the matching user profiles to create the content necessary to match people.
  • Introduction: Twitterdating bot sends d to people to introduce, explaining why (in 140 characters) they might be interested in the other person, without giving away the other person’s username. If both people d back to @twitterdating indicating they want to hear more, both users receive a d with a link to a page explaining the match and giving the basic user profile details and twitter IDs to allow users to carry on the conversation themselves.

Implications

  • Non-public intent: only the user knows they have expressed interest to participate, and the user information is not supplied to the public. Easier for people to try and test without people knowing they are trying, and keeping the information private reduces the incentive to game or lie on user profiles.
  • Links create destinations: using the link approach allows @twitterdating to provide a destination page with more information for the users that can also be monetized using highly-targeted advertising, per-interaction promotional strategies and per-month payment options. Imagine using Tipjoy as a micropayment mechanism to get access to potential matches by “paying” @twitterdating…
  • Link pages can pull in information from other, non-Twitter sites: if the user provides additional data on their profile with links to other pages, the pages will be able to pull in other data from Facebook Connect or Google Friend Connect (right?).
  • Profiles can store user preferences: users could select notification frequency and store potential matches to allow users to look back at suggested matches and the reasons why they were matched, helping users modify what they tweet about.

Comparisons and Reference points

Extensions

  • Could Twitter be used to match up business partners in the same way, using contextual analysis of tweets, links, user data and location to parse intent, capabilities and potential partnerships?

Thoughts?

[1] Seriously. I could use it.

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  • http://fudge.org Jay Cuthrell

    On my panel at the ATP last week with Verizon and AT&T, Emily Soelberg from AT&T highlighted the success for Loopt on the iPhone platform. Loopt is kind of like Brightkite and other geolocation services but it ties into the simple metrics of relationship preferences and proximity. After trips to Austin, Atlanta, and Charleston it is easy to see that iPhone users are gravitating to these Loopt type services. The bridge to Twitter is marketing oriented for inclusion to boost Loopt subscriber size take or to even push iPhone adoption. Loopt with a Twitter update enhancements related to a dating option can't be far behind. There is already Facebook and Twitter basic functionality. And as we all know, Facebook is a tool for “business”.

  • http://fudge.org Jay Cuthrell

    On my panel at the ATP last week with Verizon and AT&T, Emily Soelberg from AT&T highlighted the success for Loopt on the iPhone platform. Loopt is kind of like Brightkite and other geolocation services but it ties into the simple metrics of relationship preferences and proximity. After trips to Austin, Atlanta, and Charleston it is easy to see that iPhone users are gravitating to these Loopt type services. The bridge to Twitter is marketing oriented for inclusion to boost Loopt subscriber size take or to even push iPhone adoption. Loopt with a Twitter update enhancements related to a dating option can't be far behind. There is already Facebook and Twitter basic functionality. And as we all know, Facebook is a tool for “business”.

  • http://fudge.org Jay Cuthrell

    On my panel at the ATP last week with Verizon and AT&T, Emily Soelberg from AT&T highlighted the success for Loopt on the iPhone platform. Loopt is kind of like Brightkite and other geolocation services but it ties into the simple metrics of relationship preferences and proximity. After trips to Austin, Atlanta, and Charleston it is easy to see that iPhone users are gravitating to these Loopt type services. The bridge to Twitter is marketing oriented for inclusion to boost Loopt subscriber size take or to even push iPhone adoption. Loopt with a Twitter update enhancements related to a dating option can't be far behind. There is already Facebook and Twitter basic functionality. And as we all know, Facebook is a tool for “business”.

  • http://fudge.org Jay Cuthrell

    On my panel at the ATP last week with Verizon and AT&T, Emily Soelberg from AT&T highlighted the success for Loopt on the iPhone platform. Loopt is kind of like Brightkite and other geolocation services but it ties into the simple metrics of relationship preferences and proximity. After trips to Austin, Atlanta, and Charleston it is easy to see that iPhone users are gravitating to these Loopt type services. The bridge to Twitter is marketing oriented for inclusion to boost Loopt subscriber size take or to even push iPhone adoption. Loopt with a Twitter update enhancements related to a dating option can't be far behind. There is already Facebook and Twitter basic functionality. And as we all know, Facebook is a tool for “business”.

  • http://fudge.org Jay Cuthrell

    On my panel at the ATP last week with Verizon and AT&T, Emily Soelberg from AT&T highlighted the success for Loopt on the iPhone platform. Loopt is kind of like Brightkite and other geolocation services but it ties into the simple metrics of relationship preferences and proximity. After trips to Austin, Atlanta, and Charleston it is easy to see that iPhone users are gravitating to these Loopt type services. The bridge to Twitter is marketing oriented for inclusion to boost Loopt subscriber size take or to even push iPhone adoption. Loopt with a Twitter update enhancements related to a dating option can't be far behind. There is already Facebook and Twitter basic functionality. And as we all know, Facebook is a tool for “business”.

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Remember Dodgeball?

    Previous attempts at creating geolocational services failed because the devices and use cases simply weren't there: we're now almost there.

    … and as we all know, Twitter is “serious business”.

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Remember Dodgeball?

    Previous attempts at creating geolocational services failed because the devices and use cases simply weren't there: we're now almost there.

    … and as we all know, Twitter is “serious business”.

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Remember Dodgeball?

    Previous attempts at creating geolocational services failed because the devices and use cases simply weren't there: we're now almost there.

    … and as we all know, Twitter is “serious business”.

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Remember Dodgeball?

    Previous attempts at creating geolocational services failed because the devices and use cases simply weren't there: we're now almost there.

    … and as we all know, Twitter is “serious business”.

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Remember Dodgeball?

    Previous attempts at creating geolocational services failed because the devices and use cases simply weren't there: we're now almost there.

    … and as we all know, Twitter is “serious business”.

  • http://fudge.org Jay Cuthrell

    Honestly I haven't used Dodgeball since SxSW but thanks for the reminder. Dodgeball was useful at SxSW simply because the Twitter stream was so thick — Dodgeball was a back channel to the back channel.

    ++”serious business” on Twitter… that's tee shirt material right there.

  • http://fudge.org Jay Cuthrell

    Honestly I haven't used Dodgeball since SxSW but thanks for the reminder. Dodgeball was useful at SxSW simply because the Twitter stream was so thick — Dodgeball was a back channel to the back channel.

    ++”serious business” on Twitter… that's tee shirt material right there.

  • http://fudge.org Jay Cuthrell

    Honestly I haven't used Dodgeball since SxSW but thanks for the reminder. Dodgeball was useful at SxSW simply because the Twitter stream was so thick — Dodgeball was a back channel to the back channel.

    ++”serious business” on Twitter… that's tee shirt material right there.

  • http://fudge.org Jay Cuthrell

    Honestly I haven't used Dodgeball since SxSW but thanks for the reminder. Dodgeball was useful at SxSW simply because the Twitter stream was so thick — Dodgeball was a back channel to the back channel.

    ++”serious business” on Twitter… that's tee shirt material right there.

  • http://fudge.org Jay Cuthrell

    Honestly I haven't used Dodgeball since SxSW but thanks for the reminder. Dodgeball was useful at SxSW simply because the Twitter stream was so thick — Dodgeball was a back channel to the back channel.

    ++”serious business” on Twitter… that's tee shirt material right there.

  • http://bryanlanders.com Bryan Landers

    There are 150 million active users on Facebook (http://bit.ly/12oAN). Twitter has 5 million users (30% of which are “brand new or unengaged.” http://bit.ly/BQJo). And you want to make a dating service for Twitter and pull in data from Facebook because that's where all the useful info is?! ;)

    I'm a fan of the idea of Mr. Tweet, so I think people finding Twitter users they might like is wonderful. And it's plausible that romantic matches could begin with that level of interaction. That's a pretty passive dating service (compare to people combing dating sites with far more info)!

  • http://bryanlanders.com Bryan Landers

    There are 150 million active users on Facebook (http://bit.ly/12oAN). Twitter has 5 million users (30% of which are “brand new or unengaged.” http://bit.ly/BQJo). And you want to make a dating service for Twitter and pull in data from Facebook because that's where all the useful info is?! ;)

    I'm a fan of the idea of Mr. Tweet, so I think people finding Twitter users they might like is wonderful. And it's plausible that romantic matches could begin with that level of interaction. That's a pretty passive dating service (compare to people combing dating sites with far more info)!

  • http://bryanlanders.com Bryan Landers

    There are 150 million active users on Facebook (http://bit.ly/12oAN). Twitter has 5 million users (30% of which are “brand new or unengaged.” http://bit.ly/BQJo). And you want to make a dating service for Twitter and pull in data from Facebook because that's where all the useful info is?! ;)

    I'm a fan of the idea of Mr. Tweet, so I think people finding Twitter users they might like is wonderful. And it's plausible that romantic matches could begin with that level of interaction. That's a pretty passive dating service (compare to people combing dating sites with far more info)!

  • http://bryanlanders.com Bryan Landers

    There are 150 million active users on Facebook (http://bit.ly/12oAN). Twitter has 5 million users (30% of which are “brand new or unengaged.” http://bit.ly/BQJo). And you want to make a dating service for Twitter and pull in data from Facebook because that's where all the useful info is?! ;)

    I'm a fan of the idea of Mr. Tweet, so I think people finding Twitter users they might like is wonderful. And it's plausible that romantic matches could begin with that level of interaction. That's a pretty passive dating service (compare to people combing dating sites with far more info)!

  • http://bryanlanders.com Bryan Landers

    There are 150 million active users on Facebook (http://bit.ly/12oAN). Twitter has 5 million users (30% of which are “brand new or unengaged.” http://bit.ly/BQJo). And you want to make a dating service for Twitter and pull in data from Facebook because that's where all the useful info is?! ;)

    I'm a fan of the idea of Mr. Tweet, so I think people finding Twitter users they might like is wonderful. And it's plausible that romantic matches could begin with that level of interaction. That's a pretty passive dating service (compare to people combing dating sites with far more info)!

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Ah, but Dodgeball is shutting down… in my mind an execution failure (or a lost acquisition) rather than a failed idea.

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Ah, but Dodgeball is shutting down… in my mind an execution failure (or a lost acquisition) rather than a failed idea.

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Ah, but Dodgeball is shutting down… in my mind an execution failure (or a lost acquisition) rather than a failed idea.

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Ah, but Dodgeball is shutting down… in my mind an execution failure (or a lost acquisition) rather than a failed idea.

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Ah, but Dodgeball is shutting down… in my mind an execution failure (or a lost acquisition) rather than a failed idea.

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    User-base considerations aside, the idea is to use Twitter because the nature of the communication creates content that gives a different picture of you than your carefully manicured Facebook profile (or Match.com et. al.). If you assume “you are what you do”, then Twitter might indeed give a better picture of who you are. Perish the thought.

    Mr. Tweet could probably execute this pretty simply…

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    User-base considerations aside, the idea is to use Twitter because the nature of the communication creates content that gives a different picture of you than your carefully manicured Facebook profile (or Match.com et. al.). If you assume “you are what you do”, then Twitter might indeed give a better picture of who you are. Perish the thought.

    Mr. Tweet could probably execute this pretty simply…

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    User-base considerations aside, the idea is to use Twitter because the nature of the communication creates content that gives a different picture of you than your carefully manicured Facebook profile (or Match.com et. al.). If you assume “you are what you do”, then Twitter might indeed give a better picture of who you are. Perish the thought.

    Mr. Tweet could probably execute this pretty simply…

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    User-base considerations aside, the idea is to use Twitter because the nature of the communication creates content that gives a different picture of you than your carefully manicured Facebook profile (or Match.com et. al.). If you assume “you are what you do”, then Twitter might indeed give a better picture of who you are. Perish the thought.

    Mr. Tweet could probably execute this pretty simply…

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    User-base considerations aside, the idea is to use Twitter because the nature of the communication creates content that gives a different picture of you than your carefully manicured Facebook profile (or Match.com et. al.). If you assume “you are what you do”, then Twitter might indeed give a better picture of who you are. Perish the thought.

    Mr. Tweet could probably execute this pretty simply…

  • http://fudge.org Jay Cuthrell

    Interesting. Considering what happened to the slower kids in a game of dodgeball, that sounds about right.

  • http://fudge.org Jay Cuthrell

    Interesting. Considering what happened to the slower kids in a game of dodgeball, that sounds about right.

  • http://fudge.org Jay Cuthrell

    Interesting. Considering what happened to the slower kids in a game of dodgeball, that sounds about right.

  • http://fudge.org Jay Cuthrell

    Interesting. Considering what happened to the slower kids in a game of dodgeball, that sounds about right.

  • http://fudge.org Jay Cuthrell

    Interesting. Considering what happened to the slower kids in a game of dodgeball, that sounds about right.

  • http://bryanlanders.com Bryan Landers

    What about a larger lifestreaming dating approach? A sort of dating aggregator that pulls in anywhere you leave the kind of data you're mentioning. You could pull data off FriendFeed and build an algorithm to figure out what you're into and then match according to preferences you setup (geo restrictions, turn-offs, etc). Maybe you could feed it data, too (past relationships, etc), which would analyze and show you what you actually like vs what you think you like…

  • http://bryanlanders.com Bryan Landers

    What about a larger lifestreaming dating approach? A sort of dating aggregator that pulls in anywhere you leave the kind of data you're mentioning. You could pull data off FriendFeed and build an algorithm to figure out what you're into and then match according to preferences you setup (geo restrictions, turn-offs, etc). Maybe you could feed it data, too (past relationships, etc), which would analyze and show you what you actually like vs what you think you like…

  • http://bryanlanders.com Bryan Landers

    What about a larger lifestreaming dating approach? A sort of dating aggregator that pulls in anywhere you leave the kind of data you're mentioning. You could pull data off FriendFeed and build an algorithm to figure out what you're into and then match according to preferences you setup (geo restrictions, turn-offs, etc). Maybe you could feed it data, too (past relationships, etc), which would analyze and show you what you actually like vs what you think you like…

  • http://bryanlanders.com Bryan Landers

    What about a larger lifestreaming dating approach? A sort of dating aggregator that pulls in anywhere you leave the kind of data you're mentioning. You could pull data off FriendFeed and build an algorithm to figure out what you're into and then match according to preferences you setup (geo restrictions, turn-offs, etc). Maybe you could feed it data, too (past relationships, etc), which would analyze and show you what you actually like vs what you think you like…

  • http://bryanlanders.com Bryan Landers

    What about a larger lifestreaming dating approach? A sort of dating aggregator that pulls in anywhere you leave the kind of data you're mentioning. You could pull data off FriendFeed and build an algorithm to figure out what you're into and then match according to preferences you setup (geo restrictions, turn-offs, etc). Maybe you could feed it data, too (past relationships, etc), which would analyze and show you what you actually like vs what you think you like…

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Of course: there is no explicit need to use Twitter. In fact the recent changes to the Twitter API will force many products / businesses to rethink their reliance on Twitter.

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Of course: there is no explicit need to use Twitter. In fact the recent changes to the Twitter API will force many products / businesses to rethink their reliance on Twitter.

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Of course: there is no explicit need to use Twitter. In fact the recent changes to the Twitter API will force many products / businesses to rethink their reliance on Twitter.

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Of course: there is no explicit need to use Twitter. In fact the recent changes to the Twitter API will force many products / businesses to rethink their reliance on Twitter.

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Of course: there is no explicit need to use Twitter. In fact the recent changes to the Twitter API will force many products / businesses to rethink their reliance on Twitter.

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Speaking of “learning from experience”, have you seen Bedpost?

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Speaking of “learning from experience”, have you seen Bedpost?

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Speaking of “learning from experience”, have you seen Bedpost?

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Speaking of “learning from experience”, have you seen Bedpost?

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Speaking of “learning from experience”, have you seen Bedpost?

  • http://bryanlanders.com Bryan Landers

    Lol! Hadn't seen that…now there's a bad fit – cloud based, non-social application for your super-private data! If ever there were an app that should be a local-only desktop app, this would it.

  • http://bryanlanders.com Bryan Landers

    Lol! Hadn't seen that…now there's a bad fit – cloud based, non-social application for your super-private data! If ever there were an app that should be a local-only desktop app, this would it.

  • http://bryanlanders.com Bryan Landers

    Lol! Hadn't seen that…now there's a bad fit – cloud based, non-social application for your super-private data! If ever there were an app that should be a local-only desktop app, this would it.

  • http://bryanlanders.com Bryan Landers

    Lol! Hadn't seen that…now there's a bad fit – cloud based, non-social application for your super-private data! If ever there were an app that should be a local-only desktop app, this would it.

  • http://bryanlanders.com Bryan Landers

    Lol! Hadn't seen that…now there's a bad fit – cloud based, non-social application for your super-private data! If ever there were an app that should be a local-only desktop app, this would it.

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    But that's the point: not everyone views it as “super-private” data. And what if it was available anonymously?

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    But that's the point: not everyone views it as “super-private” data. And what if it was available anonymously?

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    But that's the point: not everyone views it as “super-private” data. And what if it was available anonymously?

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    But that's the point: not everyone views it as “super-private” data. And what if it was available anonymously?

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    But that's the point: not everyone views it as “super-private” data. And what if it was available anonymously?

  • http://peregrinebynature.com kari

    i was disappointed with mr. tweet's assistance in bringing me anyone quality or like-minded to follow. i want to follow interesting people, not popular people. the two rarely overlap, in my experience.

  • http://peregrinebynature.com kari

    i was disappointed with mr. tweet's assistance in bringing me anyone quality or like-minded to follow. i want to follow interesting people, not popular people. the two rarely overlap, in my experience.

  • http://peregrinebynature.com kari

    i was disappointed with mr. tweet's assistance in bringing me anyone quality or like-minded to follow. i want to follow interesting people, not popular people. the two rarely overlap, in my experience.

  • http://peregrinebynature.com kari

    i was disappointed with mr. tweet's assistance in bringing me anyone quality or like-minded to follow. i want to follow interesting people, not popular people. the two rarely overlap, in my experience.

  • http://peregrinebynature.com kari

    i was disappointed with mr. tweet's assistance in bringing me anyone quality or like-minded to follow. i want to follow interesting people, not popular people. the two rarely overlap, in my experience.

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Mr. Tweet's algorithm is set to find “influencers” and “authorities”, and unfortunately at the moment we are a bit limited in measuring that by anything but popularity. I imagine they are working on alternate methods…

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Mr. Tweet's algorithm is set to find “influencers” and “authorities”, and unfortunately at the moment we are a bit limited in measuring that by anything but popularity. I imagine they are working on alternate methods…

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Mr. Tweet's algorithm is set to find “influencers” and “authorities”, and unfortunately at the moment we are a bit limited in measuring that by anything but popularity. I imagine they are working on alternate methods…

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Mr. Tweet's algorithm is set to find “influencers” and “authorities”, and unfortunately at the moment we are a bit limited in measuring that by anything but popularity. I imagine they are working on alternate methods…

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Mr. Tweet's algorithm is set to find “influencers” and “authorities”, and unfortunately at the moment we are a bit limited in measuring that by anything but popularity. I imagine they are working on alternate methods…

  • http://ac-idealog.blogspot.com Aaronchua

    Yes! and if ever they got it right, I cannot imagine the value they will unlock.

  • http://ac-idealog.blogspot.com Aaronchua

    Yes! and if ever they got it right, I cannot imagine the value they will unlock.

  • http://ac-idealog.blogspot.com Aaronchua

    Yes! and if ever they got it right, I cannot imagine the value they will unlock.

  • http://ac-idealog.blogspot.com Aaronchua

    Yes! and if ever they got it right, I cannot imagine the value they will unlock.

  • http://ac-idealog.blogspot.com Aaronchua

    Yes! and if ever they got it right, I cannot imagine the value they will unlock.

  • http://www.harrymeetsally.com Rob Docherty

    I'm the owner of HarryMeetSally.com and am developing an application now that I am planning on launching. Please contact me: 502-287-3302 – Thanks!

  • http://www.harrymeetsally.com Rob Docherty

    I'm the owner of HarryMeetSally.com and am developing an application now that I am planning on launching. Please contact me: 502-287-3302 – Thanks!

  • http://www.harrymeetsally.com Rob Docherty

    I'm the owner of HarryMeetSally.com and am developing an application now that I am planning on launching. Please contact me: 502-287-3302 – Thanks!

  • http://www.harrymeetsally.com Rob Docherty

    I'm the owner of HarryMeetSally.com and am developing an application now that I am planning on launching. Please contact me: 502-287-3302 – Thanks!

  • http://www.harrymeetsally.com Rob Docherty

    I'm the owner of HarryMeetSally.com and am developing an application now that I am planning on launching. Please contact me: 502-287-3302 – Thanks!

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Interesting, I'm curious to hear about your application… will do.

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Interesting, I'm curious to hear about your application… will do.

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Interesting, I'm curious to hear about your application… will do.

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Interesting, I'm curious to hear about your application… will do.

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Interesting, I'm curious to hear about your application… will do.

  • http://www.date.com online dating

    Amazing how much effort is going into online dating these days! I really wonder if anyone dates the old fashion way anymore. Totally agree with your last line there-this technology surely could be put to use in the business world.

  • http://www.date.com online dating

    Amazing how much effort is going into online dating these days! I really wonder if anyone dates the old fashion way anymore. Totally agree with your last line there-this technology surely could be put to use in the business world.

  • http://www.date.com online dating

    Amazing how much effort is going into online dating these days! I really wonder if anyone dates the old fashion way anymore. Totally agree with your last line there-this technology surely could be put to use in the business world.

  • http://www.date.com online dating

    Amazing how much effort is going into online dating these days! I really wonder if anyone dates the old fashion way anymore. Totally agree with your last line there-this technology surely could be put to use in the business world.

  • http://www.date.com online dating

    Amazing how much effort is going into online dating these days! I really wonder if anyone dates the old fashion way anymore. Totally agree with your last line there-this technology surely could be put to use in the business world.

  • http://www.gravity7.com/blog/media/ gravity7

    there's definitely the potential for dating on twitter — thing is that lurking on twitter isn't as revealing as it is on fb or on a dating site. since to show interest you have to @reply the person (or follow and get followed back so you can do it in dm), any flirts are public. the other person may not take that the right way, may be involved, may want to check you out first and so on… so the communication model's not really the best one for first contact.

    after first contact, or if you have met f2f, no problem…

    people like to be in control when they're doing online dating — i think that's where online dating services solve the problem in a unique and appropriate way.

  • http://www.gravity7.com/blog/media/ gravity7

    there's definitely the potential for dating on twitter — thing is that lurking on twitter isn't as revealing as it is on fb or on a dating site. since to show interest you have to @reply the person (or follow and get followed back so you can do it in dm), any flirts are public. the other person may not take that the right way, may be involved, may want to check you out first and so on… so the communication model's not really the best one for first contact.

    after first contact, or if you have met f2f, no problem…

    people like to be in control when they're doing online dating — i think that's where online dating services solve the problem in a unique and appropriate way.

  • http://www.gravity7.com/blog/media/ gravity7

    there's definitely the potential for dating on twitter — thing is that lurking on twitter isn't as revealing as it is on fb or on a dating site. since to show interest you have to @reply the person (or follow and get followed back so you can do it in dm), any flirts are public. the other person may not take that the right way, may be involved, may want to check you out first and so on… so the communication model's not really the best one for first contact.

    after first contact, or if you have met f2f, no problem…

    people like to be in control when they're doing online dating — i think that's where online dating services solve the problem in a unique and appropriate way.

  • http://www.gravity7.com/blog/media/ gravity7

    there's definitely the potential for dating on twitter — thing is that lurking on twitter isn't as revealing as it is on fb or on a dating site. since to show interest you have to @reply the person (or follow and get followed back so you can do it in dm), any flirts are public. the other person may not take that the right way, may be involved, may want to check you out first and so on… so the communication model's not really the best one for first contact.

    after first contact, or if you have met f2f, no problem…

    people like to be in control when they're doing online dating — i think that's where online dating services solve the problem in a unique and appropriate way.

  • http://www.gravity7.com/blog/media/ gravity7

    there's definitely the potential for dating on twitter — thing is that lurking on twitter isn't as revealing as it is on fb or on a dating site. since to show interest you have to @reply the person (or follow and get followed back so you can do it in dm), any flirts are public. the other person may not take that the right way, may be involved, may want to check you out first and so on… so the communication model's not really the best one for first contact.

    after first contact, or if you have met f2f, no problem…

    people like to be in control when they're doing online dating — i think that's where online dating services solve the problem in a unique and appropriate way.

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Agreed; but a in-between match-maker could help solve the “public flirting” problem by making the communication private and not public, and would also allow for people to 1) indicate intent to participate and 2) exchange information anonymously. It's not unsolveable.

    But then using twitter for finding a date might not even be necessary, given the range of other apps :)

    We're seeing people develop services to find people to follow on Twitter; I don't think we're that far away from business relationship management / CRM / VRM services based on Twitter / 140 character status updates.

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Agreed; but a in-between match-maker could help solve the “public flirting” problem by making the communication private and not public, and would also allow for people to 1) indicate intent to participate and 2) exchange information anonymously. It's not unsolveable.

    But then using twitter for finding a date might not even be necessary, given the range of other apps :)

    We're seeing people develop services to find people to follow on Twitter; I don't think we're that far away from business relationship management / CRM / VRM services based on Twitter / 140 character status updates.

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Agreed; but a in-between match-maker could help solve the “public flirting” problem by making the communication private and not public, and would also allow for people to 1) indicate intent to participate and 2) exchange information anonymously. It's not unsolveable.

    But then using twitter for finding a date might not even be necessary, given the range of other apps :)

    We're seeing people develop services to find people to follow on Twitter; I don't think we're that far away from business relationship management / CRM / VRM services based on Twitter / 140 character status updates.

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Agreed; but a in-between match-maker could help solve the “public flirting” problem by making the communication private and not public, and would also allow for people to 1) indicate intent to participate and 2) exchange information anonymously. It's not unsolveable.

    But then using twitter for finding a date might not even be necessary, given the range of other apps :)

    We're seeing people develop services to find people to follow on Twitter; I don't think we're that far away from business relationship management / CRM / VRM services based on Twitter / 140 character status updates.

  • http://www.unstructuredventures.com/uv Taylor Davidson

    Agreed; but a in-between match-maker could help solve the “public flirting” problem by making the communication private and not public, and would also allow for people to 1) indicate intent to participate and 2) exchange information anonymously. It's not unsolveable.

    But then using twitter for finding a date might not even be necessary, given the range of other apps :)

    We're seeing people develop services to find people to follow on Twitter; I don't think we're that far away from business relationship management / CRM / VRM services based on Twitter / 140 character status updates.

  • http://www.gravity7.com/blog/media/ gravity7

    you're totally right about the matchmaking role — and that's a great idea, too. and if users are self-declaring their singlehood, even better.

    i think we're going to see cultures of all kinds developing, and for now we need to use these ridiculous workarounds to find each other and sustain continuity in our communication and attention.

    absolutely.

    there was a french surrealist who claimed that intimacy is the most powerful social dynamic among the people sharing an elevator. his point wasnt just that intimacy is a fundamental in all human relationships, or that it is the elephant in the room when the room forbids displays of interest and intimacy, or even that the one thing people arent supposed to talk about is what is inevitably there (the power of what is absent is greater than the power of what is present)…

    he meant that in any social context, social relations are framed by codes that regulate interaction (in particular, keeping away intimacy and violence). a social context such as twitter just needs means beyond the tweet itself… means for users to negotiate expression and reciprocation of interest…. twitter late on a friday night is a very different place!

  • http://www.gravity7.com/blog/media/ gravity7

    you're totally right about the matchmaking role — and that's a great idea, too. and if users are self-declaring their singlehood, even better.

    i think we're going to see cultures of all kinds developing, and for now we need to use these ridiculous workarounds to find each other and sustain continuity in our communication and attention.

    absolutely.

    there was a french surrealist who claimed that intimacy is the most powerful social dynamic among the people sharing an elevator. his point wasnt just that intimacy is a fundamental in all human relationships, or that it is the elephant in the room when the room forbids displays of interest and intimacy, or even that the one thing people arent supposed to talk about is what is inevitably there (the power of what is absent is greater than the power of what is present)…

    he meant that in any social context, social relations are framed by codes that regulate interaction (in particular, keeping away intimacy and violence). a social context such as twitter just needs means beyond the tweet itself… means for users to negotiate expression and reciprocation of interest…. twitter late on a friday night is a very different place!

  • http://www.gravity7.com/blog/media/ gravity7

    you're totally right about the matchmaking role — and that's a great idea, too. and if users are self-declaring their singlehood, even better.

    i think we're going to see cultures of all kinds developing, and for now we need to use these ridiculous workarounds to find each other and sustain continuity in our communication and attention.

    absolutely.

    there was a french surrealist who claimed that intimacy is the most powerful social dynamic among the people sharing an elevator. his point wasnt just that intimacy is a fundamental in all human relationships, or that it is the elephant in the room when the room forbids displays of interest and intimacy, or even that the one thing people arent supposed to talk about is what is inevitably there (the power of what is absent is greater than the power of what is present)…

    he meant that in any social context, social relations are framed by codes that regulate interaction (in particular, keeping away intimacy and violence). a social context such as twitter just needs means beyond the tweet itself… means for users to negotiate expression and reciprocation of interest…. twitter late on a friday night is a very different place!

  • http://www.gravity7.com/blog/media/ gravity7

    you're totally right about the matchmaking role — and that's a great idea, too. and if users are self-declaring their singlehood, even better.

    i think we're going to see cultures of all kinds developing, and for now we need to use these ridiculous workarounds to find each other and sustain continuity in our communication and attention.

    absolutely.

    there was a french surrealist who claimed that intimacy is the most powerful social dynamic among the people sharing an elevator. his point wasnt just that intimacy is a fundamental in all human relationships, or that it is the elephant in the room when the room forbids displays of interest and intimacy, or even that the one thing people arent supposed to talk about is what is inevitably there (the power of what is absent is greater than the power of what is present)…

    he meant that in any social context, social relations are framed by codes that regulate interaction (in particular, keeping away intimacy and violence). a social context such as twitter just needs means beyond the tweet itself… means for users to negotiate expression and reciprocation of interest…. twitter late on a friday night is a very different place!

  • http://www.gravity7.com/blog/media/ gravity7

    you're totally right about the matchmaking role — and that's a great idea, too. and if users are self-declaring their singlehood, even better.

    i think we're going to see cultures of all kinds developing, and for now we need to use these ridiculous workarounds to find each other and sustain continuity in our communication and attention.

    absolutely.

    there was a french surrealist who claimed that intimacy is the most powerful social dynamic among the people sharing an elevator. his point wasnt just that intimacy is a fundamental in all human relationships, or that it is the elephant in the room when the room forbids displays of interest and intimacy, or even that the one thing people arent supposed to talk about is what is inevitably there (the power of what is absent is greater than the power of what is present)…

    he meant that in any social context, social relations are framed by codes that regulate interaction (in particular, keeping away intimacy and violence). a social context such as twitter just needs means beyond the tweet itself… means for users to negotiate expression and reciprocation of interest…. twitter late on a friday night is a very different place!

  • Marc Vermut

    What's interesting about the idea is the distributed nature of interaction enabled by Twitter. You don't have to go to a separate website or email account. Notifications are pushed to you. Your personality is (theoretically) assessed via a sentiment analysis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentiment_analysis) of your tweetstream (or lifestream, maybe a pet project for the Gnip team).

    Huge mashup potential with psychological tests. There is already a tools that guess your Meyers-Brigg (http://www.typealyzer.com/) and age/sex based on blog writing.

    That said, I think it is more potent for business connections, interest groups and flash invites to targeted events (tied to a mobile LBS). All of this, of course, is based upon the availability of real working software that delivers accurate text analysis.

  • Marc Vermut

    What's interesting about the idea is the distributed nature of interaction enabled by Twitter. You don't have to go to a separate website or email account. Notifications are pushed to you. Your personality is (theoretically) assessed via a sentiment analysis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentiment_analysis) of your tweetstream (or lifestream, maybe a pet project for the Gnip team).

    Huge mashup potential with psychological tests. There is already a tools that guess your Meyers-Brigg (http://www.typealyzer.com/) and age/sex based on blog writing.

    That said, I think it is more potent for business connections, interest groups and flash invites to targeted events (tied to a mobile LBS). All of this, of course, is based upon the availability of real working software that delivers accurate text analysis.

  • Marc Vermut

    What's interesting about the idea is the distributed nature of interaction enabled by Twitter. You don't have to go to a separate website or email account. Notifications are pushed to you. Your personality is (theoretically) assessed via a sentiment analysis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentiment_analysis) of your tweetstream (or lifestream, maybe a pet project for the Gnip team).

    Huge mashup potential with psychological tests. There is already a tools that guess your Meyers-Brigg (http://www.typealyzer.com/) and age/sex based on blog writing.

    That said, I think it is more potent for business connections, interest groups and flash invites to targeted events (tied to a mobile LBS). All of this, of course, is based upon the availability of real working software that delivers accurate text analysis.

  • Marc Vermut

    What's interesting about the idea is the distributed nature of interaction enabled by Twitter. You don't have to go to a separate website or email account. Notifications are pushed to you. Your personality is (theoretically) assessed via a sentiment analysis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentiment_analysis) of your tweetstream (or lifestream, maybe a pet project for the Gnip team).

    Huge mashup potential with psychological tests. There is already a tools that guess your Meyers-Brigg (http://www.typealyzer.com/) and age/sex based on blog writing.

    That said, I think it is more potent for business connections, interest groups and flash invites to targeted events (tied to a mobile LBS). All of this, of course, is based upon the availability of real working software that delivers accurate text analysis.

  • Marc Vermut

    What's interesting about the idea is the distributed nature of interaction enabled by Twitter. You don't have to go to a separate website or email account. Notifications are pushed to you. Your personality is (theoretically) assessed via a sentiment analysis (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentiment_analysis) of your tweetstream (or lifestream, maybe a pet project for the Gnip team).

    Huge mashup potential with psychological tests. There is already a tools that guess your Meyers-Brigg (http://www.typealyzer.com/) and age/sex based on blog writing.

    That said, I think it is more potent for business connections, interest groups and flash invites to targeted events (tied to a mobile LBS). All of this, of course, is based upon the availability of real working software that delivers accurate text analysis.

  • http://www.taylordavidson.com/writing/ Taylor Davidson

    Do you think Twitter's “reputation score” will be “right”?

    link: http://siliconangle.com/ver2/2009/08/04/how-use...

  • http://www.taylordavidson.com/writing/ Taylor Davidson

    Thinking back, perhaps I've downplayed the difficulty in mining a tweetstream or a lifestream to truly understand people; I wonder, in your mind, what is the best heuristic publicly available online to create a proxy or an understanding of a person's complete self (online and offline)?

  • http://www.taylordavidson.com/writing/ Taylor Davidson

    (returning to an old conversation)

    It's interesting, I spend a lot of time talking to people publicly using Twitter across the world, across cultural contexts, time contexts (my monday morning is someone's sunday night, or monday dinnertime), personal and professional contexts, etc…

    bringing me to the notion of social dynamics and intimacy: intimacy is a shared dynamic, and it's only created when both people understand the context of the situation and the community; as we create new communities do we create new standards for intimacy? can individuals change as fast as societies? (or, isn't is obvious that hand-wringing and dismay over cultural changes are to be expected because groups of people [call them generations] can't change as fast as society [the sum of generations at any one point in time] ? )

    more groups, more splintering, more opportunities for cultural translators (tools and people)…

  • Marc Vermut

    Yesterday, after reading about Thread (http://mashable.com/2009/09/01/thread/) it crossed my mind that Facebook has a more richer set of personality and social network data (what you like, what you've seen, who you know, how often you communicate with them, where you've been) via all of the applications. And then I saw this Twitter analytics article (http://mashable.com/2009/08/30/analyze-twitter-...) and a description of TweetPsych.

    TweetPsych (http://tweetpsych.com) was built by by Dan Zarrella, and:
    “uses two linguistic analysis algorithms (RID and LIWC) to build a psychological profile of a person based on the content of their tweets. The service analyzes your last 1000 tweets and works best on users who have posted more than 1000 updates.”

  • http://www.taylordavidson.com/writing/ Taylor Davidson

    I should have noted that @manukumar's tweet about Thread is what made me think about this again :)

    The real question is which set of data is better, which set of data can be structured easier, and which one works better. How would a TweetPsych-inspired algorithim work on a similar set of data for the same FB users? How would the results from FB and Twitter differ?

    Sadly, since there is / could be a large degree of variability between how people use Twitter and FB (and email), the results may vary differently even for a specific individual.

  • http://www.taylordavidson.com/writing/ Taylor Davidson

    I wonder how Mechanical Turk could crunch away the data sets …

  • Marc Vermut

    For that, you should check in with Brynn Evans who uses Mechanical Turk a bunch for her research.

  • Marc Vermut

    For that, you should check in with Brynn Evans who uses Mechanical Turk a bunch for her research.

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